A random thought after wine and philosophy
Thursday, November 8th, 2007Yes, a bit tipsy from three cups of wine. Better stuff than beer though. The following poem was written by Dr. Roger Thurling, a good friend, logician and fellow philosophy dabbler. It’s quite interesting.
What Is?
Everything is
Everything that ever was or will be, is, now and always
Every man is a child, a babe and unborn
yet not every babe is a man or woman, for might not become
Every moment is now
yet there is no ‘now’, for all moments are equal
What moves?
Nothing moves, for every thing is always here, unchanging
Where is ‘here’?
Everywhere is here, for all places are equal
How could yesterday no longer be present?
Where was today , then?
Today was there also, and tomorrow, and every day
Grammar cannot partition the universe
and how could minds?
Outside minds, all future and all past is always present
and ‘there’ is always equally ‘here’
and ‘then’ always equally ‘now’
yet there is no ‘now’, for all moments are equal
Progression and elsewhere are only conceits of minds
Not time is future
No time is past
No time is uniquely ‘now’
This tree, as we see it now, seems to have different parts, in different places
This tree, as we see it, seems to change, from day to day
But there is only one tree
unchanging and in one place, that is not any place more than it is any other
and in one time, that is an enduring indivisible now
There is only one place and time where, and when all things are
The road winds around the hill
drops into the woods
crosses the stream
emerges to a view
dips again through the little vale
The road winds, but does not move
Do not be surprised by the old stone gate posts on the right
they were always here
it just seemed to us that we were not
We meet them here, in time, as two roads
long apart, may join
and again divide
-Dr. Roger Thurling, 4 Febuary 2006
I’m a little tipsy right now, so I’ll add that I’m currently listening to "Back Home" by Yellowcard. The conversation surrounding this particular poem revolved around the nature of the mind (biological or metaphysical?), causality, determinism, love, Irish beer, semiotics… it’s usually like this when we sit down with Thurling.
There’s a place and time for this sort of indulgence; i call it that because in some ways, conversation like this is a sort of vice, an addiction that is best taken in moderation. Like an affair with a girl, you can only take things seriously for a little while, but you can’t let it get the best of you. Thoughts and ideas are best in their place, but that’s not the point of life. There’s so much more to being alive than this pursuit of the "higher" consciousness. Sometimes, just stopping in a field while walking home after class to look at the moon rising is just as good as putting the finishing touches on a research paper or imagining a kiss.
Hmm, there’s a dinner downstairs with suits, a jazz band, and (somewhat) good food. More things to live for.